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UPSC Prelims 2012 Complete Analysis and Cut-Off Marks

Now that CSAT 2012 is finally over its time for its analysis and predicting the Prelims 2012 cut off marks. Like last year, Paper 1 was relatively difficult compared to Paper 2 which had lesser number of questions but took much longer to finish. If you’re a IAS exam aspirant, this analysis of 2012 CSAT will surely be useful to you to predict trends and orient your preparation accordingly. Of course, I also mention the probable cut off for Prelims 2012 so make sure you read this post completely.

Paper 1 Analysis of Prelims 2012

If last year Paper 1 focussed more on Environment and Ecological questions this year UPSC adopted a more balanced approach and questions from conventional topics were asked in plenty; something which wasn’t seen in the last three Prelims. In fact, I’ve broken down the number of questions topic-wise so you get an idea of the overall trend of 2012 Prelims. Although please note that not all questions can be neatly categorized as many are combination of 2 or more topics like Current Affairs + Science, Economy + GK and so on. But for purpose of this analysis I’ve categorized them in the topic which I felt was primary in the concerned question.

Topic/Chapter200720082009201020112012
Population-32-12
Employment-----10
Planning and Development--234-
National Income21-11-
Poverty-2-113
Prices and Inflation---21-
Agriculture11251-
Industry1--11-
Public Finance--151-
Money and Banking212122-
Foreign Trade2-222-
External Assistance-2-31-
Liberalisation--1---
Infrastructure-431--
Inclusion-----2
Sustainable Development-----1
Social Security-----1
Micellaneous-1----
TOTAL QUESTIONS81515361619

As you can see from the table above, while 22 GK and Current Affairs based questions were asked, 66 questions were asked from the conventional topics like History, Polity, Geography etc. Candidates who prepared Polity and History well should score good marks in these topics. In addition, the questions from Polity and History were from easy to moderate difficulty level which means easy marks if you had prepared these topics well.

The Economy questions were also not very difficult except a few based on the latest economic developments. Continuing the previous year’s trend UPSC asked as many as 11 questions related to Environment, Ecology and Sustainable Development. This will become a routine since these are pressing issues of our times so you cannot neglect this all important topic either in the Prelims or IAS Mains.

Paper 1 was more Tricky than Difficult

Yes, what made paper 1 tricky to attempt were the 1,2,3 and 4 (all of the above) are right type questions. These questions end up confusing the candidates since you cannot use elimination method with confidence in these questions. The doubt that maybe all the options are correct always lingers in the mind if one is not sure about the combinations listed in the answer. And UPSC asked as many as 64 questions having “all are correct” type option.

This is what made Paper 1 tricky and will ultimately decide the cut off in this year’s Prelims. Many candidates who selected an option based on hunches or selected the “all are correct” option simply because it seemed most “common sensical” will be in for a few surprises since there’s a negative a penalty of 0.66 marks for every wrong answer.

Prelims 2012Paper 2 Analysis

Paper 2 was quite easy, although lengthy. In fact I feel paper 2 will pull the cut-off upwards while Paper 1 will moderate it. Since there were only 80 questions like last year, I assume each question carries 2.5 marks. Also as in previous year, this year too UPSC showered passages upon passages in Paper two; 11 to be precise. And they were quite simple to attempt provided you went through them once or twice completely before attempting the  questions that followed.

Also like last year the 7 questions on decision making carried no negative penalty so I hope you must have attempted them all. Coming to the logical reasoning and mental ability part these questions were quite easy as well. In fact if you went through the questions and options with a calm mind you should have got most of the logical reasoning questions correct.

But since paper 2 was comparatively time consuming I assume most of the candidates couldn’t have attempted all the questions even if they wanted to.

Expected Prelims 2012 Cut Off

So finally after all the analysis we come to the cut off part, for some the most interesting and exciting as well. Before I get to the  CSAT 2012 cut-off please take a moment to read the disclaimer below.

Disclaimer: This cut-off is for reference purpose only. I don’t have any links with any ‘uncle’ in UPSC who has ‘secretly revealed’ the cut-off to me. So take it with a pinch of salt and don’t fuss if the predicted cut-off falls below or above your expectation 🙂 Also I strongly believe there’s No Individual Cut-off in Prelims, so read it before moving forward. Also while I speak of a minimum score in individual papers I don’t mean it as minimum qualifying score in each paper. The minimum score is only valid for paper 1 and 2 marks combined.

Ok, lets get to the point.

Based on the difficulty level of paper 1 and assuming an average attempt of 80 questions out of 100, a minimum score of 90 marks out of 200 in paper 1 after deducting 1/3rd negative penalty.  In paper 2 assuming an average attempt of 70 questions out of 80, a minimum score of 130 marks out of 200.

Combining the 2 papers the Cut-off score for Prelims 2012 comes to 90+130=220 marks out of 400. In fact, I predict the cut-off marks will be in the range of 215-230 marks simply because of the easy nature of paper 2 and not-very difficult level of paper 1.

Again, before expressing your valued views on the expected cut-off for Prelims 2012 please re-read the Disclaimer above. You can choose to disagree but just be nice. Comments using foul language end up in the trash bin. See you in the comments below!

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satya

how far r u sure that cutoff wont be below 215. i am getting around 207 and i have obc reservation, wat r my chances of qualification.

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    bahadur....

    you have s good chance of clearing prelims. Last time cut-off was arround 198. This time it cannot be more than 200 as the overall difficulty level this time was high.

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    niharika

    I agree both the papers were easy and one could also the marks around 215-220.But the cutoff will be around 195-200(gen). So it seems that you have scored enough for prelims .Now focus on mains like as i am doing..;)

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      shashikant

      For GS paper-I follow the answers of GK today it is most authentic he has given the explanations for each question,but Ans- Regarding RBI is not correct its answer is all are correct.Rest answers are 100% correct.
      For Paper-2 follow the answers of vajiram & CL because they have expertise better then others

      I think the cut off will be around 200-210 & those who are scoring more than 210 are very safe

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    shashikant

    Cut predicted by Vajiram around 220,ALS-198-210,Vision IAS-190,GK today-195,Raus-215,CL-200+,Sriram-200

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Vishesh

sir,

i am getting about 225-245 marks would that be enough??

furthermore i am getting only 55-60 in Paper 1 and 180-190 in paper 2

please help me out

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    Paul

    Hi Vishesh,

    Even i do fall under the same category… After comparing with the answer keys i am getting around 190-195. I should have left the unknown questions, because of that am losing most of my marks… Whether this is sufficient for a BC category student

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Anand

Thank you so much for the analysis.

Btw, I have a doubt. In the last years prelims paper analysis you have mentioned that (for paper 2), “Assuming an average attempt of 70 questions out of 80. A minimum score of 85 out of 200.”. But in this year analysis you said, assuming an average attempt of 70 questions out of 80, a minimum score of 130 marks out of 200. What is the rationale behind the > 60% difference in marks for the same number of attempts?

As per my opinion, the chances of wrong answers in Paper-2 are far more this time owing to the increased weightage of inference based “RC/Passage” questions for which it is hard to claim a definite answer like mathematics. I guess/hope the minimum score in Paper II would be around 110-120 and not more. I agree with your expected minimum score of 90 in Paper-I. Anyways it was a nice to read analysis, buddy 🙂

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    sanjay

    I agree with Anand absolutely. This time paper-2 can’t be said easier than last time and it may prove to be contrary considering infernetial type of question. Last time mathematics questions were high and thus a majority of aspirants scored heavily.

    On both occassions, i completed paper 20 mins before the allotted time, however, while matching with answer keys there seem to be many wrong asnwers (As per answer keys, some of which i am still pretty sure to be correct) and only one question wrong from Reasoning and Mathematics resultantly fetching less marks to me this time as compared to last year. Though still, they are on quite higher side..

    For first paper, though difficulty may be said low than last year but more number of questions with multiple statements made it complicated more this time than last year and hence overall score may not be higher than last year.

    Resultantly, it doesn’t seem to me that, cut-off score will go higher this time as compared to last year.

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Anupam sain

A nice analysis. My marks are ranging from 190-210 as per different answer keys available on the internet. Can you recommend any standard answer keys for both the papers. I am a general candidate so i think i am on the threshold (or out, may be..).. Please suggest..

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sidharth

I appeared for UPSC prelims,2012 without any preparation and based on the answer key by some coaching institute, I am getting around 170 on 400 .. is this a good score? any chance of clearing prelims for me?

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rahul

Hi
I have given prelims last year also [ cleared], and this year also. According to me Paper 1 requires around 80 to 90 marks minimum but as far as paper 2 is concerned, it was difficult in last year comparison, reason being that most of the answers of RC passage are debatable. And mind you its not that easy to ace those in comparison to Quant or LR questions.. so paper 2 is not going to take the cutoff up.. rather it will bring it down. But considering paper 1 was easier in last year comparison.. the cutoff will remain the same as last years cutoff of 204. So 210+ people should start pre for mains.. OBC cutoff no idea

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    Manu

    im getting around 222.7(paper I-72.88 and paper II-149.29) im an OBC student , what are my chances ? pls guide me?

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    rajat

    agreed rahul paper is going to decide the cut off this year

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    pk

    very correct. But last time the cut off was 170+. Any way, this time cut off will be at the lower side as compare to last year.

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      shyam

      yes u r rit!!!! i had around 180+/- marks last year and was qualified to write the mains.

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      ajeet kumar

      i m an OBC candidate, in last year CSAT my expected score was around 177 (paper-I 36 & in II 42 qstns, i.e. 72+105=177) nd i got through, this year paper was more hard than last year. so i think this year cut off will be around 170(OBC), 190(GEN) & 150-155(SC-ST). cut off more than 200 is totally bakwas.

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        Rajeev Ranjan

        Dear Ajeet,
        I am getting net 60 marks in GS and 129 in Paper-II,i.e.total is 189.

        What should by my future action plan.I am also an OBC candidate.

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        Thang

        I agree with you. This year paper-1 was a little harder, especially science portion because of the devious options. For eg. Oryx are hunted for their horns but chiru’s is for shahtoosh not musk (one portion is right and other portion is wrong). Likewise paper 2 was harder because of the required indepth comprehension in passages. Last year most answers were word for word in the passage, this year a lot more paraphrasing and danger of producing answers from your own knowledge. So cut off as you mentioned would probably be right.

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        Kenish

        yes, i agree with you.

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        ram

        i agree with mr. ajeet kumar- this year cut off will be around 170(OBC), 190(GEN) & 150-155(SC-ST).

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        vikas

        I think you are right man….

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        vishal

        did you get thru in interview Ajeet.

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    Paul

    Hi Rahul,

    Am getting around 190-195 marks… is there a chance for a BC category to enter into mains???

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    Tejas

    Hi, Do u think there will be individual cutoff for both papers. What was the cutoff for general category last time. My score is 85 for paper 1 and 165 for paper 2 this year.

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    ankit udeniya

    totally agree with u.a minimum scor of 80 is needed in paper 1 and paper 2 has to be around 120. so overall cutoff should be 200.

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Manu

Respected Sir,
Im an OBC student and as far as my marks are concerned i’am scoring 72 in paper-I and 145 in Paper-II , what are my chances of clearing . Your Guidance will be helpful.
Regards
manu

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Ashutosh

Thw paper 2 was tough in comparison to last year . While last year one could get 150+ easily this year it would come down to 125+ so this will bring down the cut-off . However the paper I was easy any 80+ marks could be achieved as compared to last years 60+. taking both the situations it is likely that cut-off will stay the same as last year of may be even 5 marks less. Also there are 100 seats more in this exam so I guess at least 500 more students would be selected in Prelims which should keep the cut-off low.

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vasanth

ha its a good analysis.. but this is my second attempt .,this tym m fluctuatin between 195 and 205…. 4 questions doubt…. is der possibility to enter mains??

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vipin garg

where is the question paper??????

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mAk

Dude the paper was tough this time. It appears easy as the topics asked were of familiar events. high level of understanding is required to answer the questions asked.

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sandeep

hi,
considering the difficutly level of paper in terms of its multi choice optional questions and also the time constraints in completely attending paper 2 owing to its lengthy passages, If the cut off marks dips to somewhere around 180 marks, it wont b a surprise

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    nanda

    i agree with you i too got only in 170-180 range

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    DL

    hey, i cleared prelims last year and i also know a guy who got somewhere less than 170 in last year’s exam and he cleared. don’t get too worried, start preparing for the mains.

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samrat

This year the paper 1 was a bit difficult then paper 2. Though there were questions on environment but most questions were from History & politics and government schemes which means you should have read fine prints and not just the names of the schemes for example.

As of Paper II, it was very long. I felt like the entire question booklet was full of passages only. Thought there were simple maths & DI and analytics questions but they were easy. But the paragrahs required you to read it fully & most important understand and then deduce/draw the conclusion. Most of the candidates i interacted after the exam said that the paper was too lenghty and they could only do 50 -60 question.I felt that the paper was easy and you can score a lot.
So based on my judgement (Mine only), i think the cutoff for 2012 could be nearing 190+. Why because in paper II you can easily score 130 and if you have read a bit for paper I you can score around 60. So that makes around 190. As of me, i should get in between 210~220. I am starting my mains preparations. Hopefully all ends well

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    Singh

    Samrat, do a majority of people in you study circle have have 200+?

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      samrat

      majority of people in my circle have probable score starting from 160 ~ 210

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ankitha

is there individual cut off? or a combined cut off?

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JUMRIK

I’m the fresher and i wrote the prelims without any preparation and im expecting around 90 in paper 1 ane 180 in paper2 what is my chances..!!

And so on why paper 2 was full of passage..!! What about the basic numeracy we thought of..What about the next prelim paper 2…all theory or mumericals

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Abhi

Does any one have any idea whether there is any paper wise cut off i.e. paper 1 cut off mark separate and paper 2 cut of mark separately?? If it is so, then I am in a soup… 🙁

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arun

any possibility for 180-185 score……???
suicidal decisions costed me a lot……..didn’t mark answers prompted by subconscious mind…..in Paper-I………now i regret……..
This is my first attempt, I have decided to prepare for Mains 2012 and CSAT 2013 together…….any suggestions friends???

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nanda

sir i paper 1 was very tricky i am able to get only 60 and paper 2 110 it is my last attempt i am hoping against is there any chance for my selection with 170 mark

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    divyansh

    nanda …dont go for the pple saying 200 220 and so on…170 if u got really correct then wuld surly be giving mains…believe me..last year also was the same trend…

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      anu

      I’m OBC getting 157 – 161 pls suggest if I’ll be writing plsssss

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Singh

Guys,
Congrats to who all scored 180+ . Those who got 70+ in paper one is really commendable. I will not say paper 1 was difficult but was very tricky. Based on my intraction with the guys who are seriously preparing getting 65+ was difficult. IN short 60+ (paper1) AND 120 + (paper2) will easily be in top 10%. Ofcourse there is a segment of self proclaimed geniuses who have no shame in telling wrong scores. Nevertheless there is some sort of trick they play by demotivating others.

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    Paul

    Hi Singh,

    Many thanks for your supporting words… Actually i have got 41 questions right in paper 1. However due to negative marking, i would score only 65 in paper 1. Whereas, in paper 2 am getting almost 55 questions correct. After deducing negative marking i will be around 129… Summing up both the marks i will be around 194. Is it ok for a OBC category candidate to get into mains exam… I am little bit nervous about the results… Paper 1 looks like familiar but the options provided were very tricky…

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    manoj

    i think noone can make more than 55 correct answer in paper-I…right scoring more thn 70 was tough for good candidates also..

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    aspirant

    well said

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MANOJ MITTAL

friends
i think the cut off may remain between 190 and 200 this year for general candidates due to tricky questions in paper I and lengthy II paper. The chances of negative answers are more bcoz of closest options which confused candidates in both the papers. in II paper reasoning part was easy to attempt but the questions under passages were confusing and time taking. further, this time seats are more than previous year hence, the number of passing candidates would go up. looking overall scenario, it is likely to be within a range of 190-200. so guys, start preparation. best of luck

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Singh

@Paul,
Can not comment on the OBC thing as I have no distribution of candidate details. But I have question:
– Where does UPSC mention that for OBC the CSAT will have a diffrent cutoff
– Do ppl just taken an assumption based on other exams about diffrent categories cut offs
– As far as I know there ins only age relaxation wich is mentioned clearly in the UPSC Notification 2012.

A minor example of trick in paper1 is LEAD content question, where it has an option “hair oil and cosmetics” It is present in cosmetics but NOT in any Hair oil…unless one uses motor oil for hair. I found in some answer keys this option was included in their answer but I strongly dont thisnk so….
There are many more in Paper 2 which are debatable….
——–
Guys, any idea when the CSAT results are usually out. What months was it last year?

-Singh

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    divyansh

    singh …to my surprise even coaching pple are considering that pen and pencil contails lead……they even dont know that pencil is called a lead pencil not because it contains lead but because when graphite was found they considered it to be lead by mistake and hence started the name ..lead pencil…also hair oil and cosmatics even dont contain lead ..so only smelting unit and paint wuld be the right answer

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      Singh

      exactaly, you got me there. Pen might have lead (ink is some sort of paint) but pencil DOES NOT.
      yes going by the BEST answer definition – it is correct

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      vinoth

      exactly correct. the core of the pencil is referred to as lead but it never contains “ELEMENT LEAD”

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sanjay kumar

hi gys i cleard last time with 210marks. with out any serious pre. this time i preprd for mains 2011 & prelms 2012 also,this year i m scorng 220mrks( 85+135). both paper were bit easy to compr last year .

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    Tejas

    Hi, is there any separate cutoff for each paper. U said u cleared last year, can u pls provide the marks u scored in each paper last year. Thank you

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Neeraj Jadaun

I am expecting in the range of 210-227 based on different answer set keys (95-110 in Paper 1 and 110-127 in Paper 2). Last year my marks were in the range of 180-190 and i made it to the Interviews. I am general category candidate. This time 2nd Paper was significantly tougher than last time. Paper 1 was bit busy but in any case the over all cutoff will not exceed 180-185 this time for general category. I may be wrong but this is my gut feeling.

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    Paul

    Hi Neeraj,

    Could you please let us know exactly how many marks will get deduced for negative answers?

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      Neeraj Jadaun

      In Paper-1, negative marking will cut 0.66 mark per negative question. In Paper-2, it will be 0.833 mark per negative question excluding Q74 onwards.

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Dev Karan singh charan

friends
I am expecting 98 marks in paper 1 and 105 in paper 2 after deduction of negative marks what are the chancheg for me to select should I start preparation for mains or what ? pls suggest me

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erut

Dear all,
I think that calculating marks on the basis of different answer keys given by the different sites might end up frustrating you because their authenticity is doubtful. Another significant feature of this year GS paper was it confused serious aspirants as compared to those who took it just for the sake. Paper 2 was easier provided time constraint would not have been there but the cut off’s wont be up for this reason because the assumption and even decision making options are debatable (for e.g. sport’s committee chairman ques.). The prediction on cut off’s at this stage wont help, those who are confident that they have given their best shot should prepare, without even a single thought for cut off’s because upsc is only sole authority to decide on this, ideas about cut off’s is varying like anything..
Many thanks

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    Amanpreet

    Thanks alot ERUT
    I was pretty sure yesterday that i had made it to mains. But the moment I started comparing my answers with those mentioned in websites, they not only confused me but demoralized like anything. I am scoring only 114 after deductions. But certain questions are there about which i am sure that their answers given by me cannot be wrong but somehow the websites are showing debatable answers for them, I am really confused. What to do next??????

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Saket suman

Dear all,
First of all dont be scared of all high cut off findings due to below mentioned facts:
1. Majority of students did attempted only 50-60 questions of paper 2 as paper was lengthy .
2. Total Number of students registered 3 lakhs but turnout was low In Andhra pradesh only 48 % turned out according to newspapers. Contrary to that seats are more this time around 120 more. so more 1000 selections.
3. The answer keys are different and so marks will also vary. so no one can guess cut off .

4. there was no sectional cut off in 2011 as per rti query. but one cannot be sure this time upsc can change its mind anytime. 🙂

all d best to all.

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Pratyusha

Arey satya… You will get through ra.. Dont wry!!

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sanjay

I got 175-180.. paper1-70 and paper2 – 108. this time paper2 has lot of passage and i felt difficult compare to previous year.. plzzzzz tell me is thr any chance i will get through.. is thr anybody having this score range in 2011(General category) qualified? plz reply..

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sushil

about 11000 people clear PT and appear for mains.People who say they have scored 215+ are very very few and the top performers, and mind you this 11000 does not have all 200+ candidates, people with 190 have cleared last year. Compared to last year both the papers were difficult. While in paper 1 there were about 64 questions which had statement based answers (like A and B, A,B,C, only C and A,B,C,D), it makes answering difficult, a cut off will be lower than last year. A score of 70 after negative marking is competitive. Now paper 2 which many believe was a cake walk, i don’t know what must have happened to hindi medium students of UP,MP, Harayana and Bihar. They will find it really difficult and passages and there questions were not simple and required carefully deductions under stressful conditions as paper was very lengthy and time consuming. A score of 105 is enough this time. People with 172+ do have a chance.
And i request people to give correct scores in discussions, just because i feel people want to flaunt their scores.

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    divyansh

    right susil…without introspecting and truthfulness pple are making nusance coments regarding scores…beleive me 170 if ur really sure s wuld definately give a call….and pple ple stop sayins 200 220 and so on…go deeplyin to each queastion and then ddecide….all coachings hav and error of alteach 10 percent ….

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      shashikant

      Boss last time around 200 was the cut off.This time it would be around 195-210.There are many students who have scored 130+ in paper II.Vajiram predicting-220 ,ALS-198-210,others 195-210.

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    kapil

    Trye susil .. i read here people are claming 170-180 numbr. it is ubelevable. this year i wrote the main s last year and found this year pre more tricky. multiple choice question can easily confuse you and further paper 1 was not that easy. and paper two was though easy but negative marking will m be more this year due to teh nature of paper. m getting 200+ and claim by non serious guys scaring me.. guys plese check your ans peoperly dont flaunt your no. it is not the forum to flaunt your no. it is a serious business. yesterday i was pritty sure for mains but now m scared ..

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      kapil

      peple are claming 170-180 in paper 2 and 50-90 in paper I

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      Dr. Ankit Rajvanshi.in

      exactly kapil.. same is d case wid me.. wrote mains last yr.. n scared i wont clear Pre dis tym by all these comments.. More so coz last yr my score ws 220+, so had no idea of d cutoff as it dint bothered.. dis yr d keys are varying too widely, and d cut-off claims seem to be shootin d stars… butg comparing d cmnts nd score claims of both yrs, i xpect d cut-off to be 160-180..

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om

what should be the cutoff marks for sc cat. candidate ……………….

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om

im sc cat candidate . i have scored 170 marks. any chance for me or not…………

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ruchi

im getting 190-200 marks in general category, is that enough to pass prelimsn will cutt off be less than 50%

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babu

may be its around 180 for this year. and its true like somone has mentioned, some students tends to tell higher marks. and for every year they appear

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praz

Singh says:
May 21, 2012 at 9:01 pm

@Paul,
Can not comment on the OBC thing as I have no distribution of candidate details. But I have question:
– Where does UPSC mention that for OBC the CSAT will have a diffrent cutoff
– Do ppl just taken an assumption based on other exams about diffrent categories cut offs
– As far as I know there ins only age relaxation wich is mentioned clearly in the UPSC Notification 2012.

There is category-wise cutoffs for prelims too. I’m a ST candidate, got through 2011 prelims with a score of 173, and I don’t know what the cutoff will be this time. Please don’t mislead people if you aren’t clearly aware, and @Paul start your preparations for mains.

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rahul

I have a rough score of 180 according to an answer key i got on the internet. I am an OBC candidate. so, what are my chances?

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shantanu singh

hi all frns,

this was my second attempt , however i was preparing for this exam for last three years and last time in 2011 i was not through in prelims , though i was scoring 180 exact according to answere keys of reputed institutes like KSG, RAU’s and others. this time throughout the year i prepared extensively for prelims and the result was that not a single question in general studies was such that i dont know about. but what i found is that options were realy tricky and you can not eleminate options easily so i stopped my self taking that risk and i only attempted questions for which i was sure. so i scored net 80 marks in GS paper.
paper 2 was difficult for me as i managed only 104 in it whereas last time i scored 128 in that. so a net score of 184. i realy want this time cutoff should go down as i did my best efforts and i can not improve any furthur this is my limit. but i know cut off would be 200 atleast as it was last year. and in future if you want to judge exact cut off for anyexam then plz contact me because whatever i would be getting , you just add 5 to 10 marks in it and you will get cuttoff for sure. best of luck for all those who are scoring above 200 this time.

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    rajesh

    Dear Shantanu Singh, This year’s paper as you rightly said was difficult. It will appear easy because the questions looked easy. though 104 in 2nd paper is on a lower scale, 80 in paper 1 is a phenomenal score. This years cut-offs will be on par with what happened last year. So act accordingly…

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    rahul

    HEY,,,, DONT BE UPSET …. WAIT TILL THE RESULTS…. OK… KEEP WORKING WE WILL ALL DO WELL……

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    Amit

    yaar, plz dont be so sentimental and emotional… i am 100% sure u will clear pre this time as the cut off wont be greater than 180 considering the difficulty. i know its difficult but  always be postive ..

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    Lovebliss3

    Dear Shantanu, You have done a great job.  Since your score is 184, you can definitely hope to be through this time.  All the best!

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Devendra

Does some body know what was the cutoff last year. What it is going to be this year? I dont think it will be 220. I am getting 200

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raushsn

Hi friend
I think the cut off is between 190-200 because the diffculty.papar 2 is easy as compare to paper 1 but in this paper comprehension no subjctivity in an answer.so more attempt is more dangerous.so190-200 is safe score.good luck start preparing guys they are in ths level

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Abhisht

hello folks, whatever had to be done its been done and nobody can predict cut offs with surity.. UPSC have their own fundas.. I hv heard of ppl qualifying wid 190 marks and even of those who did’nt qualify with 204 marks in last years paper.. so u cannot say abt cut offs with surity.. if u r 180+ then u must believe tat u might just scrappe thru for the mains.. so wid positive attitude start preparing for ur mains.. may God bless us all

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sac

thanks erut for the encouraging words of wisdom!!
i think ur right!!! answers r debatable and will remain so till the results r out………………………..
loosing time in thinkin about all this would give nothing but headache!!!
so better start preparing for mains and leave rest on god!
all the best

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pankaj singh

sir, i appreciate your effort of analysis,but to answering the questions correctly,in a scorching heat of may(for north indians) and analyzing the paper ,sitting in an ac room,is a hell lot of difference. for paper 1 – yours prophecy of 90 is logical one. but for paper 2 , doing 70 out of 80 , generally does not holds any water. friends of mine who have exceeded more than 50 are biting the dust. passage reading is not a ” reasoning or mathematical question” where u have the luxury of accuracy. reading the passage is other thing and answering them correctly is another thing. i am referring to most of my peers and not to “self proclaimed geniuses” so i would advise u please reconsider yours paper 2 analysis, last year one of my friend got 180{general} and he wrote mains, so its
unfortunate that u post a total,which does not holds credibility even to the minimum level. i advise you to meet Mr.RAVINDRAN of vaji ram and ravi institute, and he can add a new dimension in your analysis programme,so that you could feel the pulse of upsc.
i know no body is omniscient but to revel in this delusion and to ask from people not to use foul language is unacceptable.

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priyanka

I have got 60 in paper 1 and 148 in paper tvo do i stand a chance?? Please reply! And there are many many questions in paper-2 which are debatable what to do then? Please kindly reply and i would like to know when is the result coming? 🙂

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Reetu

I was not prepared at all. But I appeared for the test to see the depth. Anyhow I managed to score 30 in Paper-1 and 90 in Paper-2. Is this a good score for a beginner? Will I be able to make it through next year 🙂

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goodone

Those who did not take Polity seriously were sufferers this time. Also, India Year Book was a must read. Paper I was much easier as compared to last year’s. Paper II, of course, was for English medium students. I think the overall cut off for General category candidates is not going to be more than 210. It is my gut feeling that there will be individual cut off this time. Cut off for Paper I could be 80 marks.

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    RAJA.M.G

    What you say is correct
    Cut-off this time will be somewhere around 80 in G.S & 90 for CSAT .
    OBC cut-off this year will be in the range of 170-180.. Last year it was around 198 for G.C & 185 for OBC . So surely this time we can expect 10 marks less than last year

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Manu

Sir,
what are the chances for me (OBC student) with Paper -I(72 marks) and Paper II-(149 marks) combined 221 marks to qualify for mains??

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aditya

Got only 58 In paper 1 and 104 in Paper 2, as a OC candidate guess there are no hopes for me , this is my first attempt . Can you please tell when will the results be announced ?

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Abhishek

I am not an analyst. however, I completely disagree with cutoff going 200+. When you have to select 11000-12000 students out of 1.5-2 lac and when questions carry 1/3rd negative, cutoff can’t be 50% irrespective of how easy the question papers are. 200 may be taken as a safe score. but cutoff must be in the range of 180(+-10) or even below.

I appeared for prelims with hardly 6-7 hours of preparation in total. As of now, my scores are around 40 in paper1 and 140-145 in paper2 as per answer keys. I agree that though paper1 seemed easy at first look, it did require perfect understanding of the topics asked.
paper2 was a bit lengthy, i must agree. And I am sure many of the aspirants couldn’t have attempted all the questions of paper2 (though I managed to attempt all the questions before time ). Even I am not satisfied with some of the answers provided by many sites as far as paper2 is concerned and my paper2 score is inevitable to go up by 5-10 marks.

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Abhishek

Compare to last year most of my friend and me got 10-20 marks less in paper 2. In paper 1 difference is only +/_ 5 marks. Cut off should be 10 marks less compare to last year. In last year I know one person who got 190 and clear prelim. This time it may be between 180-190. Rest only result will confirm.

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Purohit

Don’t rely upon the solutions given by the coaching classes. They to don’t have their concepts at the right place. That is the reason why some expecting 200+ couldn’t clear the xams and some with even 175 cleared last year. check ur own solutions on the net.

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Rann

Is cut off on Individual basis or overall basis , Please tell me.

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Rann

What about cutoff for ST Candidates

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pratap

hoping 80-90 and 110-120 . these coaching should stop fleecing students which is revealed by their stupid keys !

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Dev

I am an ST candidate and after going through and cross checking my answers with some answer keys available online, I am getting somewhere around 145-155. Can someone tell me whether this allows me to expect something for the mains?

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priya

What is the probable cutoff for an ST candidate this time? My score is coming to somewhere around (35+105) = 140. Can someone tell me what the cutoff for last year was?

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abhishek kumar baranwal

The analysis above gives me a chance to narrate what happened this morning.On calling a coachingwalla i’d worked with,i’s told the cut off would be around 230-250.Obviously people upright and honest are rare.Ego ultimately gets exposed.all my attempts i’ve found the cut offs are generally lower than most self proclaimed geniouses wd tell.It is so difficult for them to accept a wrong answer if they consider it right.

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Sunil

I have a feeling there WILL BE individual cut off this time and that the overall cutoffs might take a dip.

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rajneesh

Dear frnds….
my score in Paper-1 is 70-75 and in Paper-II is 105-108, i,e. i m scoring total marks 175-183 out of 400, i belongs to SC community.
please tell me whether i’ll get a call for Mains-2012.
regards

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Karthikeyan Jp

Sir what will be minimum qualifying marks in csat 2012 for sc/st category?.
is 1600/400 . Is there any chance to clear?

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Santhosh

Guys, start preparing for Mains ..those who scored 180 NET should start immediately writing practice (expression practice)…This cut off is not going to be there..Surprising to see why people who after scoring well past 200 are wasting time here!!!!!

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Jitendra Pandey

According to KSG,CL and Vajiram my score is 201,190 and 171 respectively. None of the answer keys are reliable. Coaching like Vajiram gave the answer of simple mathematical problem wrong. So the lesson which i learnt here is no one knows what will happen. But one with 170 plus marks must prepare for mains. After all if one will not be get selected then also it will help him in future.

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Seni

I so hate this…was expecting to hit atleast 120 in GS and CSAT…but noww after deductions i have just about 180+..now am so doubtful about having a chance to appear in the Mains. and yes!! am in the ST category….made the silliest mistakes hence ended up marking the wrong responses to questions i knew so well!!! call it human error…price is heavy!!

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Moses

Got 85-90 in Paper 1 and 123 in Paper 2. Total something around 208-112. This is my 3rd attempt. I dont think cut of would be anything around 210+. It has to be definitely below 200. Both the papers were quite tough compared to previous years. 75% of the questions in Paper 1 are tricky. And Paper 2 is very lengthy. Those who attempted all the questions in 2nd Paper lost tooooo many marks in Negative marking. All the keys provided by these institutes are not authentic. So, relax and get on with your Mains preparation. As far as I know cut off would be around 180-200 for both OBC and General. THERE ARE NO INDIVIDUAL CUT OFF’s.

And to people claiming that their Paper-2 score is 175-190 out of 200, please leave Civil Services to kids like us… Many thanks.

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    Moses

    ** The score is 208-212.. Not 112…

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    Abhisht

    awesome reply to d fake ppl who just claim vaingloriously.. i also assume cut off to be in d region 180-200

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    VIVEK

    Please don’t get fooled by people…for general candidate cutoff cannot be 180-190 …it’ll be higher..majority of people in Delhi (Mukherjee Nagar and Rajendra Nagar) are in or above this range…. and as u all know majority of this majority will not pass…..so the general log says it cannot be so low…Remember Only top 7% of the people appeared will pass…Cutoff should be around 205 to 215….it’s 220 according to Vajiram which I think is too high…FYI my paper 1 score is 100-110 and paper 2 score is 165 to 170 (DM ques) + few doubtful questions(2 to 3)…so total score is 265 to 280…..last year my score was around 262 – 265…This year’s paper was comparatively easier…Paper 2 was a cakewalk for people already taken CAT…..only difficulty in Paper 2 was to read all the questions…few of my friends could not do that and left 5 to 10 questions…..

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      Neel_modish

      do not fool the people with such assessments. first of all go and check out the success ratio of all the big institutes in delhi who claim to be IAS MAKERS of this country. even if vajiram claim has to be taken seriously(which cant be because i know lot of people who have either just enter vajiram at the time of interview or left the course in between owing to their pathetic unprofessionalism and now they have cleared all the stages, they are on the list of achievers of vajiram) it hardly crosses 2-3%. this year they claim they have 400 success students in 2011 final result. and somebody should ask them how many total students enrolled with them in FY 2010-2011. IT WAS TOTAL 4000 students enrolled in different optionals. so how much is the %. its 0.1% success rate  for year 2010-2011. and don’t tell me that all those who attended vajiram, didn’t feel the need to go anywhere. on 3rd rank holder prince dhawan, more than 6-7 institutes have put their claim. 

      and secondly civil services is given by people all across india and not just those in mukherjee nagar and rajender nagar. you can feel happy to be surrounded in such places. but there is more to civil services exam than just rajender nagar and mukherjee nagar. you are standing on good score for prelim, so good for you. don’t universalise your perception by claiming that  those who are expecting less than you are wondering in fool paradise. MAY GOD BLESS YOU WITH ONE SEAT IN FINAL RESULT BUT STILL THERE WILL  BE 1032 SEATS LEFT FOR OTHERS. 

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Vikram

I agree with some of the above predictions. Again my thoughts may not be correct still will share them. As far as I m concerned, I attempted last year with a prep of 15 days and scored around 90 in paper -1 and around 150 in paper-2. So with a score of 240+ I made it to mains. This year I was a bit more serious, focused and strategic and prepared a few sections very nicely. As options were tricky in the sense they required a lot of permutations & combinations and we had a just little over a minute for every question, which made us reluctant to mark choices in almost every question given the use of black pen and negative marking. I found UPSC testing our psychology as well. I think will get around 85-100 marks as there is contention in around 11 questions among various sites and resources.(one research says only veg population can pose food security threat to world, hence to increase we may use non-eco friendly methods and hence may affect biodiversity, but most of the coachings have not included it in their answers ).
Similarly in paper-2, I think scoring was difficult this year as maths/reasoning questions were lesser in number and inference based questions were difficult to arrive at answers. I may score around 125-140. So a total of around 210-240.
So my intuition is that cutoff may be a bit lower than last year. Anyone around 175-185 can be hopeful.

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Suhas

What is the expected cut-off for an SC candidate?

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Harry

this time no of seats have also increased compared to last time…so more no of candidates will qualify…will that bring the cut off a bit lower????

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Harry

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Rashid

I got 60 in first paper and 65 in second paper am an OBC candidate. so, what are my chances?

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ashish

I am definitely getting more than 210 marks (SC student) combined, I am sure that i will get through this time too.

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Flamingo

Mr. Pankaj. I am sorry to say but according to Vajiram & Ravi the cut off for this year will be 220 (which is way much higher than your prediction!!)…I hope you discuss your paper with Mr. Ravindram yourself to get a better analysis of the paper.
Yes, I totally agree with you, that there is a lot of difference in answering the questions sitting in the examination hall and analyzing the paper sitting in air-conditioned rooms. The pressure of making the correct answer choices sometimes gets so immense that in spite of knowing the right answers we make silly mistakes and choose the wrong options.
The papers this year were quite tricky as compared to last year’s. It seems most of the people are expecting within a range of 180-200. I am not sure about sectional cut offs. But it made sense when there was a subject paper. Since both paper 1 and 2 being a general studies paper, there should not be any sectional cut off.
Rest is all our luck. All the best.

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    ganesh

    hi i am from the ST category.gave my first CSAT.attempted only 59 in paper 1 and 56 in paper 2.scoring 60 in paper 1 and 90in paper 2.total of 150.what r my chances?

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    gaurav

    VAJIRAM AND RAVI! DEAR YOU BETTER CHECK THE AUTHENTICITY OF THIS INSTITUTE. THIS INSTITUTE PUT CLAIMS ON EVERY TOPPER EVERY YEAR EVEN IF PERSON HAS JUST ENROLLED HIMSELF/HERSELF AND NEVER ATTENDED ANY CLASS. I ENROLLED MYSELF THEIR FOR MAINS PREP BUT DIDN’T JOIN AND WHEN I MADE IT TO THE INTERVIEW STAGE, MINE NAME WAS THERE IN THEIR LIST OF CANDIDATES WHO CLEARED MAINS. I HAVE JUST SEEN OFFICE OF THEIR BUILDING NOT EVEN A CLASS ROOM. THIS IS THEIR AFFAIRS OF STATE.

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Vimal Singh

OH MY GOD !! 😛

Chill people…njoy a bit n start for mains 😉

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Vimal Singh

Sir (ADMIN)

u ROCK 😉

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ram naresh

hi all,
i scored 78 in pap 1 and 120+ in paper 2. last yea my cor was 174 but i was not able to qualify prelims. can anybody tell me about my chance this year

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Arpit

Guys can anybody provide with category wise cut off. By reading so far I presume many of the commenter wants this feed and that include me also.

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Arpit

Any one more thing to remind, by reading so far I can see that you are all getting 170+. So relying on your common senses do you all think that you all are gonna be selected. Seeing average marking as 170+, I think that cut off is gonna be a little higher than you predicted and one can ask why I concluded this, the answer is that UPSC can’t select all of you. Please do comment on my analysis.

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    Lovebliss3

    Arpit is absolutely right.  Those who have 190 in their pockets alone can feel safe.

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Raja

I think that paper I was a bit difficult compared to last year and I have seen very few who have a score of 90+ in paper I compared to last year. Regarding paper ii, it was bit lengthy but easier compared to last year.
So 1st thing is to check the scores from authentic sources.
For Paper1 – http://shankariasacademy.com/
http://www.gktoday.in/
( in fact Gk today has provided explanations and links for most answers, thus seems most authentic of all others).

For Paper2- Career Launcher answers seems to be the most authentic source.

An overall score of 190+ must be a safe bet provided you do the analysis correctly.

People who think that UPSC has its own ways of deciding and that someone with 204 score could not make it last year but a person with 170+ cleared it. I think this huge marks difference 204 vs. 170 comes because people check answers from wrong sources and think that their cutoff was high, but in reality their marks could have been much much lower in reality.

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AMAN BISHNOI

I M A GEN CATEGORY STUDENT,I M DEADLY SURE THAT CUT OFF FOR GEN CANDIDATES WILL BE AROUND 210-230.

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    rahul

    and on what basis are you “deadly sure” my friend??

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    goodone

    no chance dude. Only those who are unrealistic about their Paper II score would say this. The passages and English comprehension were of the standard of an MA English entrance exam for a Central University. Folks, be ready for shocks when you are cross-checking your Paper II answers.

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    Vijay Singh

    So, do you think this will be lowest by OC candidate. Than what could be highest!!!! 300 or 300+???

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Flamingo

Thanks a lot Raja. Gktoday seems pretty authentic. I checked from many sources. They provided solutions without any explanations. But gktoday gives the explanation which makes it quite reliable. I was looking for some source like this. The CL’s paper 2 analysis seems fine.

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xyz

I have different opinion…. Last year, I think I got 47 in Paper – I and 88 in Paper – II (So, total of nearly 130-150) and still cleared the Prelims…. How can this year be so high? BTW, I’m OBC… one person from Jharkhand filed an RTI (as it seems in some website) in 2010 and It was mentioned there, that year cutoff was of 118 for Gen, 114 for OBC, 110 for ST/SC, I’ve forgot about PH 1, PH2, PH3… yes, 2010 was totally different, but don’t think it will change much from at least last year…

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    Vishal

    Hi Friend,

    I scoring between 145 to 160 based on different papers availabe online, can you please tell me is this enough for a SC cat student.

    Also can you please give your mobile number, mine is 9833296551

    Many Thanks
    vishal

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    puneeth

    Dear Xyz
    You mean out of 400 if candidates get 118 for Gen, 114 for OBC, 110 the yare through? or you gave the numbers for 200?

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      xyz

       Out of 400

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      xyz

      I think this year it would go high, as second paper was much easier and less time consuming compared to last years… I solved it within One and an half hour this year, while last year I could hardly solve 60 questions……but certainly not 200

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      Ruchitomer1608

      i do agreee….yar easily then all will pass with 118 cut off

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      Abi19july

      prelims of year 2010 consist total of 450 marks

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      Dr. Ankit Rajvanshi.in

      those cut-offs are with optionals… CSAT has increased the cut-off greatly.. and also score moderation was done in the optionals…

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    Paul

    Hi XYZ,

    Have you cleared with that much marks last year? Is that true? because based on that we need to make our mind…

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    Abi19july

    sorry brother, 2010 pre cutoff was 248/240 for gen/obc resp.., i have a query brother r u sure you just got around 150 marks and cleared the prelims in 2011.

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goodone

If I am not wrong, even TIME institute’s solutions to Paper II are wrong. Only today morning I was confident of scoring 210. My expectations now are 195. People have been estimating high score for themselves in Paper II. None will get the score they are expecting. Paper I was horribly tricky. For example, the question on the powers of the Gram Sabha. The third option had “ANY mineral” but the Sabhas’ recommendation is required only in case of “MINOR minerals.” Both papers were not easy. The cut off marks (whatever they are) are going to be a bit lesser than last year’s.

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    sundaravathanan

    exactly!! paper 1 is tricky. i dunno how the scene was last year . but this year the answer keys of different coaching centres are varying widely . according to them my mark ranges from 205 to 245. though i dont like to spend much of my time in doing these kinda  calculations and  ‘speculations’ i find it hard not doing that atleast twice a day.:( 

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Harry

this time no of seats have also increased compared to last time…so more no of candidates will qualify…will that bring the cut off a bit lower????

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POMIL PREET

dear sir,
my overall cut off is 165- 170 should i sitting in main exam after negative marking and i am from SC category pls give me suggestion sir.

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    Joy Savanna

    pomil, You are in. Congrats!  Start preparing for the mains.

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dr rahul

so, what times the no of vacancies get qualified for mains??? the no of vacancies is about 1033 this year…

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    Dr. Ankit Rajvanshi.in

    last yr it was 11683 smthin for 983 vacancies.. so approx extrapolation wud be arnd 12200 dis yr…

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armaan

i am completely in disagreement with this analysis. i find the analysis completely absurd. how can the person differentiate b/w being TRICKY and TOUGH when ultimately people find it tough to reach at conclusion of the answer. yardstick has to be whether was it possible to reach the definite answer or not. paper 1 was tough overall whether one want to call it tricky or confusing. paper 2 was lengthy enough and more importantly so much is the variations in the reaching the conclusions in RC QUESTIONS that i surprise are these institutes making fun of candidates by not able to predict right answers themselves when they miss no time in claiming to be champions of ias preperation. down the line i have felt that habit of dictating pattern for the forthcoming prelims in any year actually make students to think that this area will be covered more and that less. and when that doesn’t happen they call it tough. lets take example of two questions on govt schemes-ASHA and JANANI SURAKSHA YOJNA. these people are saying-“OH THEY HAVE ASKED SO MANY QUESTIONS FROM GOVT SCHEMES AND THAT’S TOO SO DEEPLY.” who says that they were deep rooted question. i tell you how they were so much superficial. if anyone ever have this much of time to listen to 15 minutes news on ALL INDIA RADIO everyday then they will find both of these schemes (including two more which were there in exam) are given full 30 second advertisement in the form of a song just before the news. i don’t know about other but i learned about both of these schemes for the first time from there(and two my surprise all the correct three points mention in the answer are their in advertisement song). the detail they asked about schemes was very general. But the problem is that big institutions who claim big results(which actually is hardwork of individual candidate) have told their students to “READ ONLY WHAT WE HAVE PROVIDED YOU BECAUSE WE ARE IAS MAKERS OF THIS COUNTRY. ” the problem lies with coaching institutions narrowing down the study scope every time to their whimsical assumptions. i saw in the newspapers, more than half dozen institutions have put claim on the guy who got 3rd attempt this year . i wonder was he running all the year across these institutions. My dad is an IAS and he cleared his exam by going for a comprehensive study of everything( and not just reading DICTATED MATERIAL) and i am follower of same line of thought even if it looks cumbersome or called OLD SCHOOL thought.

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harish

dear friends.

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yogesh

cut off will be around 150-180 for genral, 145-160 obc,120-160 sc/st

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    puneeth

    more than 1 lakh will clear if it is the case 🙂

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    goodone

    150-170 for GEN should be ridiculously low. 190 may be

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      Ruchitomer1608

      how can be u so sure???????

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        goodone

        ruchi, this is what im hearing everywhere.  of course, the cut off may come down in the coming days if people realize that they have got some 5-7 questions in both the papers wrong.  Hope for the best

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Gourav

I think India year book and Newspaper covered nearly 30 questions. That is a huge part for 100 questions. So we must go back to basics of go through IYB completely.

Regards

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armaan

wow! i mean just wow! answer keys from T.I.M.E. corrected 6 of my wrong questions in paper=2(which another institution has marked as wrong answer) but at the same time T.I.M.E marked 5 of my erstwhile 5 right questions as wrong options . So i am standing at same position. but my subconscious mind fearing- WHAT IF ALL 10 QUESTIONS ARE WRONG?????????????? HOW IDIOTIC IS THIS. WHEN YOU CANT PREDICT RIGHT ANSWER FOR PRELIM , HOW CAN YOU SAY WE ARE BEST IN COMPLETE THREE STAGES COACHING OF CSE. LOOSERS. This is the credibility of these BIG INSTITUTIONS. I must say UPSC has (deliberately) failed all these institutions.

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    goodone

    Armaan, kindly don’t go by TIME’s solutions. I think they have got at least 7-9 wrong, if not more.

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CHIRAG

as paper-1 was more over tricky like 64 ques were need to be perfectly done types(1 only.1 and 3, all of the above) so chances that many would have done the mistakes in that..so if u have scored atleast 70 around in paper1 is like appreciated work and paper2 was very lenghty many had hardly attempted 60 ques so in that case 110-125 is very gud score so cutt off would be definately 175-180 around…and as english passages were to tough,the more no of hindi medium students r appearing for that would have found it very difficlt…so dont listen to 200-220 talks if ur above 175 just go for mains prep…thanks…///

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gaurav singh

those who could not clear exam started teaching .those who cleared are ias now.means,those who could tell are not here .those who are here cant tell.

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gaurav singh

forget about their high cut offs…let them find the proper answer first.

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SHANTANU SINGH

hi all,
dear all i just want to share my experience with all of you. actually i am employed in some company and many of my colleges along with me were preparing for this exam. in our group one person is there who got selected in IIM banglore but didn’t join as he is now willing to go in IAS. anyways. according to me the paper was of moderate level and one with a score of 115 in paper 2 is a good score provided one has checked his/her answeres with standard keys like: IAS100.com (key given by chronicle) or of KSG.
but what i want to share is ..when i ask all my friends about paper 2 they all said that it was too easy and on an average they all have done 70 out of 80 questions in paper 2. that candidate who cleared IIM claiming that he attempted 77 out of 80 with at least 95% accuracy. mujhe to ye samajh nahi aata yaar in sab logoo ne examination hall main ghuste hi gole bharne shuru kar diye the kya? khair jo hua so hua magar inn logo ko dekh kar to sach main lagta hai ki hum jaise logo ko ab peeche hat jana chahiye kyonki main agar poore saal bhi paper 2 ke liye practice karoo na tab bhi itna score nahi kar sakta hoon. really yaar hats off to all those genius minds. so i quit now.

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    taru

    dude ye sab bolne ki baat hai. maine bhi 79 qeustions solve kiye. according to keys getting around 130 (god knows) marks. but not iim student but mba. upsc status dekh kar select nahi karati. all are equals here. sirf mehnat aur luck chahiye(both).

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ajeet kumar

last year i wrote main exam ,so i hav some idea, this year paper was relatively difficult nd time cunsuming. last year my score was only 177(OBC). This year my expected cut off wii be around………150-55(SC/ST), 170(OBC) & 190(GEN)……

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    pappu

    r there any resevation for sc candidates in qualifying markes
    what was thje cut off last year

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    RAM SINGH

    SORRY AJEET , I M LATE TO UR VIEW, BUT I M TOTALLY AGREED WITH U. , LIKE LAST YEAR OBC CANDIDATES ABOVE 170 WILL GET SELECTED FOR MAINS.EVEN I HAV QUALIFIED FOR THEE MAINS EXAMINATION WITH A 40-47/I50 QUESTIONS IN IAS PRE 2007-2009.LAST YEAR IN 2011 WITH 173 I GOT QUALIFIED FOR MAINS.SO FRIENDS WE R COMPETING WITH THOSE WHO R APPROXIMATEY LIKE US AND NOT EINSTEIN LIKE PERSONS.  EVEN EINSTEIN’S MATH AND GENERAL CALCULATION WAS VERY AVERAGE.

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Mohsin shaikh

hey guys im obc student
I got marks around 170-180
Is there any chance 4 me

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alex

Hi , my score in paper 1 – 60 { source GK today } and in paper 2 – 150. total = 210 { source CS mantra } with OBC catg.
Whether i shud start hitting for mains ?

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damo

one answer about the supporting services is nutrient cycling and crop pollination, all coaching institute has given wrong ans, proof: http://www.sussexotters.org/pdf/2009/What%20are%20Environmental%20Services.pdf

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    taru

    thanks i hav marked same. i read in wiki. bit keys are showing wrong answer.

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alex

Also wud lyk to congratulate each and every person who took the exam , guy u all have done a great job ( despite of the fact that u r in or out ). coz u have answered the paper taking 2 hrs tym . as the self proclaimed ” ias makers ” the sir’s and mam’s of the coaching institutes who grilled you for year long and took u to ride every now and then. Aaj 3 din ho gaye csat chodo GS k answer bhe theek nahe aa pa rahe ” AAJ UN SE JA KAR BOLO ” KYA SIR AAP BHE SOLVE NAHE KAR PAAYE ”

PS : ye shabd jan hit me jare , per shayad coaching walo per bhare 😉

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alex

Also wud lyk to congratulate each and every person who took the exam , every 1 has done a great job ( despite of the fact that u r in or out ). coz u have answered the paper taking 2 hrs tym . The self proclaimed ” ias makers ” the sir’s and mam’s of the coaching institutes who grilled you for year long and took u to ride every now and then. Aaj 3 din ho gaye csat chodo GS k answer bhe theek nahe aa pa rahe ” AAJ UN SE JA KAR BOLO ” KYA SIR AAP BHE SOLVE NAHE KAR PAAYE ”

PS : ye shabd jan hit me jare , per shayad coaching walo per bhare

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    Armaan Rife

    i agree with you. more than students, upsc want to teach a lesson to these self claimed IAS MAKERS of the country those who cant predict answer keys perfectly. they are  at the same level as we but difference is that we have performed this in span of 2 hours under tremendous pressure and not inside AC rooms for more than three days.

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raj

According to 3 different sets of key answers i am getting marks in the range of 180-220.. There are a lot of debatable answers…

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minty

There is no cut off beyond 198, nature of paper I was invitable but digasterous. paper II was moderate but time consuming. Ager koi banda P-II main 180 marks aur Paper I main 20 marks (means 20 questions ) lata hain 200 total marks to kya he got clear ? NO!
Matlab cut off P I decide karega . Whoever clear P I then his PII will be cheacked. e.g.PI cut off be 45-50 questions then his PII be get cheacked then marks added adn final cut will be decided. Open 180-190; obc 165-175; sc n st 135-140. Yani jisne PII main jiyada score kia aur PI main20-35 woah to gaya.

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minty

There is no cut off beyond 198, nature of paper I was invitable but digasterous. paper II was moderate but time consuming. Ager koi banda P-II main 180 marks aur Paper I main 20 marks (means 20 questions ) lata hain 200 total marks to kya he got clear ? NO!
Matlab cut off P I decide karega . Whoever clear P I then his PII will be cheacked. e.g.PI cut off be 45-50 questions then his PII be get cheacked then marks added adn final cut will be decided. Open 180-190; obc 165-175; sc n st 110-120. Yani jisne PII main jiyada score kia aur PI main20-35 woah to gaya.

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Rann

140 ST Category is any chance there

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minty

There is no cut off beyond 198, nature of paper I was invitable but fatal. paper II was moderate but time consuming. Ager koi banda P-II main 180 marks aur Paper I main 20 marks (means 20 questions ) lata hain 200 total marks to kya he got clear ? NO!
Matlab cut off P I decide karega . Whoever clear P I then his PII will be checked. e.g.PI cut off be 45-50 questions then his PII be get checked then marks added and final cut off will be decided. Open 170-180; obc 155-165; sc n st 100-110. Means whoever scored more in PII and PI main 20-35 he wont clear. Another things to be concerned Number not exceed 11000 to 12000 for mains, representation of candidates from all over country i.e. centers number of females sc sts minorities ph candidates . Therefore one cut off not apply to all but definite score in P I must needed.

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    Armaan_rife

    mr minty! same rule can be reversed. if a candidate has performed exceptionally well in paper 1 say 160( may be just out of luck which made him/her to get benifited for all the risks taken) so he ll me selected for paper 2 checking, according to you. but if he/she is standing at 40 marks in paper 2 and thus total 200. will he be selected? both papers are equal in importance and no one is subservient to other. its combined cutoff not sectional.

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ruchi

i went thrugh many institute solutions, all are different, only upon few questions they have similar answers, im not getting, its my first time n very much imp for me….at last i may get arond 160-190, im in general category, so will i make it to mains?

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Abhinav

Hi All,
I am a general category student.
last year my expected score were : 65- 72 in paper 1 and 135 in paper 2…( i got a call for mains)
my frnds with score in the range 185 to 195 also got a call for mains.
This time around , both papers level was tough, I dnt think cut will go beyond 195 for general category.

Thx,
Abhinav

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Abhinav

This year: my score,
paper 1 : 84 to 98
paper 2 : 145-157

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Sakshi

Hi all,
This was my first attempt at UPSC Prelims. (and last, considering my age 🙂 ) I’ve been reading the comments and getting encouraged and disheartened alternatively. My score is roughly in the range 225-230 (after going crazy looking at 10 different keys and finally assuming). And my fingers are crossed!
There is something that I did want to share here. My husband is a 2006 batch IRS officer. Since his time of taking the exam, and much before that, speculation has reigned supreme in the days following the prelims – to do with cutoffs, keys, paper analysis etc. The impression I get from those who cleared that long back is that NO ONE CAN KNOW WHAT UPSC THINKS/DOES. 🙂 They do not reveal selection criteria/cutoffs etc. They still don’t. And its all pure guess-work, considering the numbers who take the exam! All that we lesser mortals should do is remain confident if we feel confident that we have done well. And prepare further. 🙂 Good Luck!

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Purohit

Let me give an example of how UPSC plays tricks and how coaching classes show the utter lack of strength and knowledge to rise to that standards. This years pre had a question about reason for Gandhiji’s fast in 1932. Most of us have marked Ramsay Mcdonald’s communal award and almost all the coaching classes have unanimously accepted it. Now there is a trick UPSC played. Here are some facts found in any reasonable history book. ” Congress and Gandhi showed a neutral position towards communal awards as it involved a sensitive issue of separate electorates to minorities. It also included separate electorates for dalit community. Gandhiji saw it as a tactic of distorting hindu social structure and seeds of division in it. SO HE FASTED TO CONVINCE( TAKE IT AS FORCE) DALITS NOT TO ACCEPT THE SEPARATE ELECTORATES WHICH EVENTUALLY CULMINATED IN POONA PACT.Point to be noted here it is that Ramsay macdonald act was not opposed. His fast was not against the government but against acceptance of separate electorates by the dalits.Dalits were free to choose their own destiny under the act.The consideration was gandhi’s life. Thus Gandhi’s fast did not have ramsay macdonalds communal award as a reason although it was related to it. UPSC demanded us this form of knowledge rather than some superficial connection between Gandhi’s fast and RM communal award. Take such considerations into account while evaluating your self otherwise surprise results will follow.

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    puneeth

    How does the reservation criteria work. What is normally the cut off mark for an SC candidate in prelims
    The Reservation is as per the government guidelines. That is 27% for OBCs , 15% for SCs and 7.5% for STs. These reservations are given in the Preliminary stage itself.
    Suppose 750 students from a particular category is to be selected, top 750 candidates will be selected among the particular category after some standardization or normalization of the all subjects. The original marks obtained from the General Studies is kept intact. But the optional paper goes through some standardization or normalization to give equality to all the optionals. Thee the General studies and Optional will be totalled for the total ranking.

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    gaurav

    this is incorrect analysis. dalits have not accepted the communal award as ambedkar was still in pursuation of concluding his stand on the issue. no doubt the issue of seperate electorate for DEPRESSED CLASS was raised by ambedkar in first Round Table Conference, which was ACCEPTED by RAMSAY so as to be included in constitution of india whenever it is framed. so here RAMSAY and AMBEDKAR were standing on the same side as an architect of this award and gandhi on other side. IF ONE ANALYSE IT, IT WILL BE SEEN THAT AMBEDKAR HAS JUST GOT HIS VOICE ECHOED IN RAMSAY’S AWARD AND WHAT GANDHI PROTESTED WAS A COMPLETE WITHDRAWL OF IT OWING TO POTENTIAL OF THIS AWARD TO DISINTEGRATE HINDU SOCIETY. AMEDKAR WAS NOT TO BE SEEN ALONG WITH GANDHI AS COMMON RECIPIENT OF THIS AWARD RATHER HE WAS ARCHITECT OF IT COZ IT WAS HIS DEMAND. so ultimately protesting in front of ambedkar for it was similar to protest against ramsay’s communal award. it wasnt as if two indian leaders were fighting over the issue of “WHY DIDI YOU ACCEPT THEIR AWARD WHEN I HAVE NOT.” rather ratio here was 2:1(ramsay and amedkar on one side and gandhi on other). when he visited Yerwada Central Jail gandhi told him that he wasnt against the welfare of dalits but it shoudnt be done this way. thus ultimate contention was provisions of the ward not something else.

    moreover, this is a general studies exam where in the notification UPSC has said that it expect candidates to be aware about the general aspect of everything which a politically-economically-socially mature citizen of this country will know. this is not an exam for Ph.D ENTRANCE OF HISTORY. you seems not to have recovered from prelims till now. i cant ask you to not to speak your mind because thats your right and i cant take it but my right has permitted me to say this what i have said. so take cre. best of luck

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      armaan

      I agree with you gaurav. mr. purohit has put the whole concept upside down by presenting a picture where gandhi seems like protesting for non acceptance of communal award by dalit community but thats not the only thing. if you read cambridge history of india or for that matter any authentic book on indian history( not some class notes of some institute}, you ll find that gandhi ji contended the whole idea of seperate electorate for dalit which was included in ramsay’s award and not in some request of ambedkar WITH IN THE COUNTRY. AMBEDKAR fully supported this award because it was his own request, so when gandhi ji knew that it was favored by ambedkar ofcourse the person to whom he would have talked would had been ambedkar because through him only he could got the award either dropped or revised. thats what happened in YCJ. The ultimate contention was the award, not why ambedkar favoured it. amedkar favouring it or not would not have scrapped the implementation of the award but the wholseome drop of this provision would had and thats where we find that gandhi’s protest was for ramsay’s communal award and not for asking an individual or one community to not accpet it.

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    goodone

    Purohit, To suggest that Gandhi was not opposed to the Communal award is ridiculous. It is an established fact that he was opposed to it tooth and nail. Your understanding of the question is convoluted. Just because None was the fourth option, you are begging to differ. Is it?

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      armaan

      mr. purohit can have his own answer keys where my few left right answers will also go into negatives and instead of standing at 90 in PAPER 1 . I ll be at “-90.” UPSC exam is not for PhD but to know whether person know some details of indian aspects or not. but mr. purohit seems to go for OCEAN BED analysis of every question. i wonder did upsc board even bother to check how many options were overlapping in both the papers but mr. purohit made me feel like every option correct in every answer. GOD BLESS HIM

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        goodone

        Armaan, let’s not debunk Purohit’s analysis. He is intelligent. I am reminded of what a nationally famous IAS trainer said to my class – “The problem here is with two persons – those who study less and those who study more.”

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        goodone

        Armaan, let’s not debunk Purohit. He is intelligent. I am reminded of what a nationally famous IAS trainer said to my class – “The problem here is with two persons – those who study less and those who study more.”

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          armaan

          i am certainly not debunking mr. purohit. i am laughing at myself only when i say that my expected marks are fluctuating so much that even if some new set of answer keys owing allegiance to what mr. purohit’s answers come out, my score will fluctuate with widest range possible range ever. he must be a mature individual. i have right to disagree with him but i cant take away his right to say what he has to say. what i felt i wrote. interpretation is a form of freedom of expression which is a FR, so everybody should carryon including you, me and mr. purohit.

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    jonny

    purohit, do u have answers for parliamentary budget office, sufis, RBI’s banker’s bank role, NBFCs’ inclusive governance, endangered species?

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    Purohit

    I really have no hesitance in accepting things if i am wrong. But to just dismiss it as a beyond the scope of UPSC is ridiculous.Being clear about things well falls within scope of UPSC and that is what i am. If anyone wants to oppose me provide me an answer as Mr Gaurav has provided. I have just gone in depth and not researched anything else. Those who say it is beyond scope are telling that the level of UPSC lower than that of Bipin chandra’ book. I have answered many such questions in my prelims based on such indepth study and even after considering above question i am still in a very very safe position.Look at the other questions and try to figure out will superficial knowledge work.

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    taru

    then dude can u tell me what was the answer?

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Arpit

Guys, here is one billion rs question. Do you need to get individually qualified in each paper to get selected or combined of paper 1 and paper 2 makes the cutoff ? And if you need to separately qualify then what will be individuals cut off of both papers. Rply ASAP. 🙂

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    puneeth

    according to rti there is no individual cut off.. but yes the rti was for 2011. if the same this applies i.e. UPSC does not change it then it remains.

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rohit

This year’s paper was all time difficult and once again upsc showed the trend
of shifting from direct questions to conceptual based questions.I read the 2
newspapers “The Hindu”(Online) and “The Indian Express” and regular
reader of gktoday.in,read ncert and some reference books for the past one
year and still find it difficult to answer many of the questions related with
finance,banking,politics etc.Except maths and DI part,Paper -2 was much

more diificult and lengthy than last year.Last year I got 122 in paper-2 but

this time it’s around 86.I am getting 41 in paper 1(Source-gktoday.in) and 86
in paper-2(Source-testfunda.com).In fact testfunda revised my total score
of 140 to 126 one day after.It shows that some of the genuine websites
after 2 or 3 days find it difficult to reach at the correct answer.Some of the
people here got 180-200 without any serious studies.I don’t know -How?One
of the lady comments to get 185 and asked whether the women will get any
special reservation in upsc.I really don’t know what happened with my
score.But still hopeful to clear the prelims.People who got 180+ if tells from
which sources they read and how they find it easy to answers the questions
will help us.

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    Cliffhanger097

    friend your sources are appropriate….i think u attempted less questions…atempt at least 80 questions inpaper 1 and 70 in paper 2

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      Lovebliss3

      attempting 80 questions will be imprudent and ridiculously unwise.

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        Refermeforinfo

        Sometime demonstration effect prevails and its all have  exaggerated  rather than telling truth or all are really genius………..in any case  please do not spread rumours…be truthful to yourself first then post anything…..some get easy sleep at night even telling ocean size lie….

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    taru

    read books focussing basics for each subject, not guides, notes or digests. no place for superficial studies in upsc. thorough reading is essential. only reading headline of topic is not essential.

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pragya

d solutions provided by various institutes, esp for csat, are at significant variance. for some of the questions in csat i was so sure, but sometimes cl is in my favor n vaji is not and sometimes vice versa. sometimes cl is giving diff answer than vaji n i am having a third answer. so no point contemplating combinations ceaselessly. i have got scores like 212, 220, 235……..i have all the variety. so i am planning to stop this guessing business n go for swimming instead : ) all d best buddies

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killer123

ladies and gentlemen,
my assumption for the cut off (gm) will be between 200-215 and not more than that.
many of my friends have scored in the range of 200 to 240 and my score is 245
I strongly believe this time UPSC will introduce individual cut offs for each paper as they are very miffed with some ppl who usually clear the prelims but wont write the mains.
3 of my friends had cleared the pre last time largely due to their scores in paper2 (which was in excess of 150) but bunked the mains as they had no idea wat was it all about. There were also some other ‘Common Admission Test’ type guys whom i know who had just taken up the pre ‘for fun’ and had cleared it but didnt knew that mains would follow after prelims!!!
that is the state of affairs down south in bangalore here;
so considering all these, upsc is bound to fix a minimum cut off for both papers and if u get above that in each of the paper u are saved else – A DEAD DUCK.

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    Kamya_86

    i agree with the scenario of last year. my brother who is just super duffer in GS (he answers 1st president of country as JAWAHAR LAL NEHRU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????) but too good in quant and  questions of ” whose mother, whose sister, whose shirt red” etc types. he cleared pre last year with 194 in paper 2 and 30 in paper 1. and when he saw question papers of last years mains, he coudn’t collect this much courage even to try MAINS. just think how many deserving students might have lost when cut off is pulled so high by paper2. but i wonder whether  upsc will go for individual cutoff because their answer to an RTI filled in month of september last year says that no individual cutoff is ever taken or will be taken.  But for one second even if we take the scenario where individual cutoff is taken and lets say its 90 marks for GS, But what if  person is holding too good in paper 1 say 140-150( don’t rub this idea of getting this much high in paper 1 because a lot of people go for risk taking and its pay you when your luck is with you, i know a lot who have got 150+ last year in paper1, but ofcourse they didnt make it in MAINS) then how much he/she need in paper 2, just 40-50 maximum. in this case it will be injustice to PAPER 2 as well.  so it seems bit reluctant that upsc will opt for this. 

    On the whole i personally believe that UPSC downgraded it’s level own its own at prelim stage by simply following the pattern of bank po/cat/other recruitment exams in case of paper 2 than to find a comparatively new pattern which can prove that this exam is administrators and not for managers.  PAPER 2 is more easier than a catwalk for CAT aspirants, but its UPSC who has to decide whether it want duffers like my brother or those who have at least some knowledge of india. ITS upsc who is to blame for such debacle not just students.

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    Nidhi_shankar

    do you have 12000 friends who all have scored between 200-240????????????/ if yes than my chance is gone because i am not you friend………………………………………………………………………………….. please for god sake don’t put average of your and your friends marks because there are more people who have given attempt and they all are not your friends.

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    Vignesh

    “DEAD DUCK”-LOL true with upsc…i completely agree with ur theory of individual cut off for this year…by this way many ‘not so serious’ candidates gets eliminates…after all UPSC is not a selection body rather a rejection body

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ruchi

oh plz….dnt fire answers on each other solve my prob first tell, me what would be cuitt of for GEN. category, i lie between 160-190?

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    pragya

    @ruchi: seems difficult, thats what can b said

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    goodone

    “I lie between 160-190” – At last I come across a realistic person. anything less than 180 may not be enough. To give an answer to that nagging question, the cut off may be between 180-205 for GEN. This is what I am hearing here in Hyderabad.

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puneeth

http://www.mrunal.org/2011/11/two-rti-replies-about-csat-2011-prelim.html check the link for the individual cut off of both paper 1 and 2 query.RTI says there is no such thing. So scoring low in one of the paper cant be factor to filter the candidate.its overall marks that matter.

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    Dr. Ankit Rajvanshi.in

    what went unnoticed here wen i saw dis sm days ago is pt. no. 3 …. Finally UPSC is giving d authentic keys on RTI (though after much delay) … ty puneeth..

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minal

what could be the cutoff for sc category?
my score is around 170 do i have any chance ?? pls guide me!

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Flamingo

I think there is no end to cross checking your answers from the different solution keys given by different institutes. The answer keys provided by different coaching institutes have not only boggled my mind but has rather disturbed me very much. When I come to think of it, these coaching institutes have books and the biggest of all, the access to internet where they can read from different sources and find correct answers, still they themselves are not able to do it. then we who went to the examination centres and answered those questions in a span of two hours just using our own knowledge!!!
I think its better to rely on your intuition and start preparing for the mains. Even if one does not clear the prelims, the knowledge acquired is always going to an advantage and not a waste of time.

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    armaan

    very true. the exam itself didn’t cause as much hardship as these fluctuating ranges owing to variable assessment of answer keys from different institution has caused.

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madhan

purohit was just awesome.i could’t stop laughing.lol.
UPSC as it mentioned clearly in its notification,tests only basic understanding of aspirants.not in depth analysis.
it just tries to confuse students by giving tricky options and provokes students to make mistakes.

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jonny

If you ask me, the best thing to do is rework paper II again and validate your marks yourself. As of Paper I, go look up the government websites, wiki etc. I have been googling for two days to know whether there is a Parliamentary Budget Office in our Parliament. I know that a PBO does mid-year review forecasts in the light of the macroeconomic situation. But whether this one exists in India is not known. Also, even if that existed, would its function mean that the Parl is exercising control on public finance? Pls reply if you the right explanation.

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dr rahul

when are the results coming out??? can anyone please tell… ^_^

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Deepi

Last year I got 90.10 in Paper I and 89.04 in Paper II. Over all about 180 and I had cleared it. I am an OBC candidate. Last year the paper was quite tough but manageable.

This year I am getting around 190-205 as per various answer keys and I am hopeful that the cutoff WILL NOT be more than 180 for OBC. Reasons:
1) Paper I was sordidly confusing owing to the jigsaw puzzle like options. I salute those guys who say that the papers were easy. For me, it was very very tricky. Trickier than last year for sure.
2) Paper II had huge RCs which were from diverse areas like biodiversity, resources, politics, development and economy. These required double reading and the options were also closely matched, to the extent that you cant just trace them in the paragraph but you have to UNDERSTAND the para first and then THINK of the answer and NOT TRACE it in the para itself.
So fellas, I think all those getting 180 plus, please start preparing for mains.

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Prashant

Thank you all for sharing your views.
My expected score–
P-1 = 72 +/- 3
P-2 = 115 +/- 2
Total = 182 -192

So at least 180 for sure,, i was hopeless but now after reading your views i think i should gear up for mains. (one also has to do it otherwise) 🙂

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ruchi

thats true, but can anyone tell me if UPSC has announced or posted the answer keys for the exam?

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Minty

1. Result will be declared any one of 10, 16, 17 August.
2. There will be no cut off beyond 195, some genius may score 200+ but are few what about
remaining 11700.
3. Paper I was inevitable but proved fatal. Paper II was of moderate level but time consuming.Very few attempted all questions. Decision making qs are must without it no clearance in P II.
4.Now sirji about cut off – Think if one must get 170 marks in P II and 20 marks in P I total 190. Does he clear pt ? if cut off for open is say 160. NO!!
5. In the year 2012 1st cut off in P I decided then marks of P II will be added and then final cut off vary for category and center wise.
6.e.g. if someone got minimum 35-40 questions for example correct in P I only those marks of P II take into consideration whatever they be 30, 40, 60, 120, etc. Morel is that P I decide selection.
7. Ager aisa nahi hua to bande P II main160 aur P I main 20 marks leker pass ho jayenge.
Proved unjustice.
8. Cut off for open 145-155; obc 125-135; sc n sts 100-110. seperate for PH , minorities , womens.
9.Matters also concerned are proper representation of candidates throughout nation minorities, women, PH, SC STs, centrewise representation. etc.
So dear this is UPSC who knows better how to select.One thing sure that no one cut off apply to all. SC-STs get benifit more because thers number is limited i.e some 2500-3000 out of 12000 selected for mains.

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    Madhan

    no dude UPSC have clearly stated in an rti query  that there are no individual cut off s.
    there is only combined cutoff.

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pappu

as per ur answer key published im getting 54 marks in paper 1 and 108 on papper 2 which makes 162 marks so my score will range between 160-165 will i be able 2 qualify for mains as im a reserved (sc st obc nt )applicant will there b any relaxation in marks

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SIddhant

I am getting around 200-240 with different solutions, I have doubts about few questions, how can NBFC be out of inclusive governance, I read that one of the major shortcomings of biogas is that it cannot be used in IC engines, are CFCs used in tubeless tires, is plastic surgery under internal organ transplant

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    Vikrantthakur

    plastic surgery as internal organ transplant started by shushruta in 1 ad but question said that it started around 3 ad so thats wrong as it was prevelant before.biogassification can be used in an ic engine i just read a paper on its design and how it can lead to greater efficiency in fuel consumption.CFC in tubeless tyres is a tricky one

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      Siddhant

      can you provide the link to that paper afaik the design has never been implemented

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madhan

as far as hyderabad is concerned everyone is predicting cutoff to be in the range of 185-195

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dr ramesh

hey…plz..plz some one wil tell me about obc, physically handicapped catg, cut off..
im getting 125 to 135 total marks….

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priya

how long it usually take for prelims results to be announced???

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pappu

plz tell em wether i will clear with 160–165 marks

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vikram

I am getting 200 (Paper I= 89 + Paper II=111). I am from general category. Is there any chance for mains for me. Plz share if any one hav idea about this.

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    Abhisht

    same here dude although my break up is 80 in GS and 120 in CSAT.. lets pray we do qualify

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    kk

    ya u will write mains this year my frnd. bcoz cut off will be around 190………..best of luck

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    2706 Ashish

    i also have the same situation, i got g.s 84 and paper2 120. i m expecting call for mains, bakki finally result hi batayega

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rohit

tooooo many comments have not read it all, some one else might have already pointed this out i dont know, butt… according to an article in The Hindu trainers (of civil services, ie coaching classes wale) are predicting 190 and above.. so assuming, rightfully so, there were saying that for gen category… 190 and above for gen and subtract 10-15 for reserved categories…

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    Lovebliss3

    if the trainers, who are given to exaggeration or cautious estimations, themselves are pegging the figure at 190, then it should be not more than 175-180 for GEN.  Hope for the best.

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      dk

      m an obc aspirant…n my score stands somewhere btwn 170-188……dunno wht 2 xpect….i hv jz seen a msg by a candidate hu says he had scored 170(obc) n cleared last yr…dis gvs sm hope bt………

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aspirant

last time the pre was held somewhere in june 3rd week and the results were announced on august 18th, so this time as the pre was held some 1 month before to last time pre, my assumption is that the results will be out by july 2 or 3 week…
all the best for every1 🙂

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    Dr. Ankit Rajvanshi.in

    no evry yr d result is declared in aug.. nd last yr pre ws on 12th jun…

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ruchi

OMG…. itna late result n what about real answer keys by UPSC oficially being anounced, how would we judge about to take mains coachings or not?…help!!!!

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Amit

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sathish

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Priyadarshan Bhatt

Please Suggest history books for IAS Mains.

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    taru

    basham for ancient, grover, bipinchandra for modern, satish chandra for medievel and all ncert

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Deepi

Last
year I got 90.10 in Paper I and 89.04 in Paper II. Over all about 180
and I had cleared it. I am an OBC candidate. Last year the paper was
quite tough but manageable.

This year I am getting around 190-205 as per various answer keys and I
am hopeful that the cutoff WILL NOT be more than 180 for OBC. Reasons:1)
Paper I was sordidly confusing owing to the jigsaw puzzle like options.
I salute those guys who say that the papers were easy. For me, it was
very very tricky. Trickier than last year for sure.2) Paper II had
huge RCs which were from diverse areas like biodiversity, resources,
politics, development and economy. These required double reading and the
options were also closely matched, to the extent that you cant just
trace them in the paragraph but you have to UNDERSTAND the para first
and then THINK of the answer and NOT TRACE it in the para itself.So fellas, I think all those getting 180 plus, please start preparing for mains.

 

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Deepi

In Mains English and a Language paper are compulsory and are checked first of all. If you fail in them, no matter even if your dad plays golf with the President, your other papers wont be checked.

Similarly, UPSC checks candidate’s knowledge more by stressing on GK. Thus, I agree that there may be a combined cut-off; however, only those guy’s paper II is checked who clear paper I.
So here is how it is, you clear a certain threshold for paper I and then your paper II is checked. So all those who are compulsorily cleared in GK make themselves eligible for the combined list.

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    UcancallmeLoser

    my dad plays Golf with the President!!! :p

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    Dr. Ankit Rajvanshi.in

    i dnt think so.. my expected score last yr was 45-50 in ppr-1 and 180-190 in ppr-2.. and i got d call for mains.. n obviously UPSC wont keep d cut-off below 25% .. so there are surely NO INDIVIDUAL CUT-OFFS…

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Abhinavdgambler

actally  this is mh first attempt and aftr checking d solutions mh score is 214 in total………..so should i b prepare 4 mains tension free…………..

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naik

Wat should be cut off for sc/st?
If gm is of 190-200
Obc upto 180

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Sahzad Ali

Why this much variation in Answer key provided by so called best in business , any one  suggest some authentic key pls. 

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Deepikahitaish

when isthe prelims result

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rohit

visit this link to have clear idea about the cutoff for csat 2012

http://upscchat.in/Thread-csat-2012-cutoff

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Tanya Krishnan

after going through all the answer keys of all the reputed institutes, i have only one thing to say-F***K YOU ALL BLOODY BASTARDS COACHING INSTITUTES.(THOSE WHO HAVE WEAK HEART PLEASE DON’T READ FURTHER AS IT  LL BE MORE BRUTAL). YOU ALL BIGGIES WHO CAN’T GET TIRED OF CLAIMING YOURSELVES TO BE THE MAKERS OF NEW GENERATIONS HAS BEEN SO BADLY SODOMISED BY THE UPSC THIS TIME THAT NO STICHES CAN HEAL YOUR RUPTURED ASS. SOME ASSHOLES INSTITUTES ARE SO BLATANT IN ANSWER KEYS THAT THEY  EVEN WANT “ASHA” TO CONDUCT DELIVERY AS WELL. EVEN A DOG IN VILLAGE KNOW ABOUT THAT “ASHA” NEVER CONDUCT DELIVERY.  BLOODY MOTHERFUCKER THESE INSTITUTES CANT GET RIGHT ANSWERS TO 100+80 QUESTIONS AFTER 5 DAYS OF EXAM AND CLAIM TO BE STARK PINPOINTED IN CLAIMING CUT OFF. ALL THE EASY QUESTIONS OF GS PAPER IS KNOWN TO ANY PERSON WHO HAS READ NCERT BOOKS CORRECTLY  WITHOUT GOING TO ANY INSTITUTE AND REST OF ANSWERS ARE NOT  EVEN KNOWN TO THOSE WHO TEACHES IN THESE INSTITUTES, FORGET ABOUT THOSE WHO STUDY UNDER THEM. ITS A DRIVE BY UPSC TO ELIMINATE THESE INSTITUTES  AND THEY ARE SUCCEEDING IN  IT AND I AM HAPPY FOR THAT. BECAUSE THESE INSTITUTES HAVE MADE IT INEVITABLE FOR  A COMMON MAN TO FEEL THAT” BUDDY IF YOU DONT HAVE 1 LAKH+ TO SPEND ON COACHING (IN CASE OF VAJI RAM ITS 1 LAKH 50 THOUSANDS JUST FOR GS , CSAT AND TWO OPTIONAL) THEN FORGET ABOUT BECOMING AN IAS OFFICER. BLOODY MOTHERFUCKER THESE INSTITUTES’ BALLS HAVE COME ABOVE THEIR GENITAL THIS TIME AND IN THE RACE TO BE AHEAD OF OTHERS THEY ARE PRODUCING RUBBISH IN ANSWER KEYS. UTTER RUBISH(ANSWER KEY OF ONE INSTITUTE SAYS PENCIL CONTAINS LEAD????????????????????????? OH YEAH I AM SO POISONED BY LEAD AT THIS TIME THAT I AM ON DEATH BED, BECAUSE MY MOTHER PLANNED TO KILL ME WHEN SHE PUT ME IN NURSERY WITH TWO PENCILS IN MY PENCIL BOX, NEITHER WAS  GOVT, ACROSS WORLD WERE WORRIED ENOUGH TO STOP THE DEMISE OF YOUNG LIVES AND THUS DIDN’T TRY TO STOP THE USE OF LEAD THOUGH THEY STOPPED CHINESE TOYS VERY FAST AND NABBED THE CULPRITS FOR MILK POISONING IN CHINA.) SOMEBODY SHOULD THESE ASSHOLES THAT 
there is no lead in the writing core of a “lead” pencil. The core is made of non-toxic graphite and does not contain lead.
The only relevant concern regarding potential sources of lead in pencils is in the lacquer or paint used to finish the pencil.
lead is a naturally occurring compound that is contained in many different raw materials used in many industries to produce many consumer products.
lead content in all consumer products has been under strict regulation for many years by the regulatory authorities of different governments around the world. Generally, these standards are similar from country to country but there are some variations in regulations and content standards around the world.” BUT YOU KNOW WHAT INSTITUTES PROVIDE CONCISE FORM OF INDIA YEAR BOOK IN WHICH THEY FOR OUR CONVENIENCE PRESS DOWN EVERY THING TO 50 PAGES FROM A 1000 PAGES BOOK. WOW THEY ARE ALL SO GREAT TO US.” F**K THEIR GREATNESS, UPSC DIDN’T ASK THE NAME OF SCHEMES BUT DETAIL OF SCHEMES, FEW OF WHICH ARE NOT EVEN AVAILABLE IN INDIA YEAR BOOK.   I HAVE NO HESITATION IN SAYING THAT MY BIGGEST MISTAKE WAS TO JOIN A INSTITUTE IN DELHI FOR PRELIM. THOUGH I KNOW I LL CLEAR IT BUT I AM NOT GOING TO ATTEND ANY OF THE INSTITUTE FOR MAINS AS THEY LL TEACH WHAT WILL NEVER EVER BE THERE IN EXAM.  THESE BLOOD-MONEY-COCK SUCKERS INSTITUTES  ARE WORTH OF RECEIVING SHIT ON FACE AND IRON WHIP ON ASS SO THAT ALONG WITH SUCKED BLOOD THEIR OWN BLOOD WILL COME OUT FROM MOUTH. THE HARD WORK OF CANDIDATES SHOULD BE ATTRIBUTED TO THEM ONLY NOT TO ANYONE ELSE. AND THOSE WHO READ AND MAY TRY TO TELL ME TO CALM DOWN, PLZ GET AWARE OF THE FACT THAT I AM A GIRL AND NOT A BOY. AND THE LEVEL OF FRUSTRATIONS THESE INSTITUTES  HAVE CAUSED TO EVERYONE OF US IS KNOWN TO EVERYONE. I LL CALM DOWN AND WILL PREPARE FOR MAINS BUT ONE NEED TO THINK HOW A COMMON STUDENT IS GETTING FOOLED BY THESE “CORPORATE COACHING INSTITUTES.” F**K ALL COACHING INSTITUTES.

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    Gagan Mann

    woooooooooooooooooohhhhhh! i just love your words. thats what should be written on the walls of every institute. absolutely correct.

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    Narayn Sundram

    nice tanya. you echoed my sentiments. i feel the same

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    Jatin

    yes. this answer key on lead poisoning from most of the institutes shocked me out of my mind. i thought was lead so close to me. i had a habit of eating pencil in school. and you can guess what came in my mind. THIS IS HOW UPSC DEFINE GENERAL STUDY and no institute can ever think like this whether vajiram or T.I.M.E. what they can do is just pick up readymade questions from some foreign exam or foreign book but never like upsc. i completely agree with you tanya.

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    Parul

    i agree with you. this problem can be sorted only if UPSC itself should provide answer keys. most of the state service commissions provide answer keys in state service commissions exam and they also constitutional bodies just like upsc.

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      ruchi

      Useless comments by a frustrated boy who calls herself a girl called TANYA. This guy is a big time loser and he will never make to prelims….and all those who liked his comments should also join the bandwagon…A bunch of losers supporting a nincompoop…Shame on you guys..

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        Parul

        no ruchi. she might have used the hardest language ever possible or heard for coaching institutes but her essence is right. even i dont garee with her language, but i completely agree with the main points of her comment like extremely high fee in these coaching institutes(quite unreasonable most of the time) and her anger on answer keys like on ASHA, LEAD PENCIL etc. i mean its a common sense ruchi that govt who is so much publicizing institutional delivery for last so many decades through  many audio and video ads can never allow a 1 year trained lady called ASHA to conduct delivery. and answers of institutions on lead in pencil is really bizarre. we know it from 6th standard onward that pencil contain graphite and not lead. Ruchi its not about two-three questions but the common sense applied to frame answer keys by the institutes. answers on MILLENNIUM ECOLOGICAL ASSESSMENT are really tough to find but to questions on ASHA and LEAD PENCIL is not that tough and still if you get them so wrong then there is a problem. for example if you go to institutes which teaches you on very first day that whole of constitution came into force on 26th jan 1950, will you not think twice before continuing there when you are sure and informed that some of articles came into actions in November 1949. its almost same feeling when one see these wrong answer keys. tanya( whether actually a girl or not, that doesn’t matter to me) has her essence right even if language was too derogatory. and ruchi don’t say that a particular person cant make to prelims only because he/she is bit frustrated. we cant say about anyone except for ourselves. may be she turned out to be topper this year or may be you become topper of 2012 civil services exam. so lets be patience with our thoughts and language. i would like to suggest tanya as well  not  to use this language on net but they have removed her comment. but never mind, i wish best of luck to all the aspirants including you and tanya. god bless you all.

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        Jatin

        listen up girl! whoever you are. you have no right to say that a particular person can’t make to prelims. you better worry about your own exam then to comment upon others. you didn’t like tanya’s comment, fine, thats your call. but don’t say anything about others. none of those who have liked tanya’s comment or even tanya is dependent upon you for their survival or for claring the exam. got it. 

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Siddhant Singh

This was my first attempt, and I gave it to get the feel of UPSC and give my best shot next time, what I have realized in the past month is that the level of competition is more or less same as in the CAT( I am an IIM passout), and I do feel that the cutoffs should be more than 210, the level of aptitude paper was way below easy and scoring 140-150 marks in that paper should not be very tough, as far as the first section goes my analysis by reading through different forums is that almost all who have cleared PT last time are scoring 75+, so I expect that serious aspirants will score in the range of 70+. 

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    Madhan

    140-150 in paper 2 is close to impossible for normal aspirants.
    as u were an iim passout u may score in that range but it is not possible for students like me.cutoff will be in the range of 180-200.

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Acharyaarvind07

195(70+125) according to rau’s key is it okay for
gen category
Waiting fr ans

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rohit

no answer key is completely free from errors though i found this one with most correct answers .

check here
http://upscchat.in/Thread-csat-2012-answer-keys

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ruchi

Useless comments by a frustrated boy who calls herself a girl called TANYA. This guy is a big time loser and he will never make to prelims….and all those who liked his comments should also join the bandwagon…A bunch of losers supporting a nincompoop…Shame on you guys..

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Dipan

my total  is varying from 180-220… i am in SC category will somebody tell me should i prepare for mains or not….

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Geetshakya

its very good information

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Vince

good analysis,thanks.Hope to make through Prelims-1st hurdle1

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Armaan

most of insitutes saying cutoff to be 200+ in any case. can anyone give reason why it can be true or why it can be wrong.

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    Sandeeppan

    Those coaching institutes cant even give 99% flawless answer key. How can they guess the cut of correctly.

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Sandeeppan2007

Candidates predict the cut off based on their own perception about toughness of question paper. There opinion can rarely be representative.

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Dr. Ankit Rajvanshi.in

u r true at d facts, bt ur asumption’s gonna fail… dis is a policy decision, and cant be changed evry year.. Last yr there were no individual cut-offs as declared by UPSC in reply to RTI.. And also the the official paper names are GS paper 1 & 2 (and not GS & CSAT), meaning that they are both GS papers… So no reason for individual cut-offs…

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Nitsh11

im getting 147 out of 400 im sc;will i be selected can anyone please tell

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general category

hi! i am expecting 75-80 in paper 1 and 130-140 in paper 2. should i prepare for the mains?

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Armaan

most of insitutes saying cutoff to be 200+ in any case. can anyone give reason why it can be true or why it can be wrong.

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Armaan

most of insitutes saying cutoff to be 200+ in any case. can anyone give reason why it can be true or why it can be wrong. its damn clumsy. i don’t think so even institutes had ever faced such condition where variations in answer keys is unprecedented. 

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psandhar

i am expecting about 75-80 in paper 1 and 130-140 in paper 2(general category). should i prepare for the mains?

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Nitin (@Nitin4681)

Guys check UPSC 2013 Prelims answer key given by upsc4all. http://www.upsc4all.com/upsc-downloads/general-downloads

Scores are differing by 10 marks when are checked two different sources.. please tell me which one is correct?

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pornima

please anybody tell me, wt will be the cutoff for sc upsc pre2013 exam. i have checked from various classes answer keys.i am scoring around 165-175.
i do belong to sc categoery.weather i will be eligible or not and do i start study?. plz help me

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Arvinda

Whether the Cut off is decided for the both the papers as combined one or there are separate ones for the both?

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Arvinda

to do it more simple. If I get 27 in paper-1 and 195 in paper-2. What will be my chances?

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